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Doofus Maximus
Join Date: Sep 2000
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Tipping the owner
This is a topic I get lots of email on. I'll post some of them here.
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Doofus Maximus
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Doofus Maximus
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ANother question via email -
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Doofus Maximus
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Smart Feller
Join Date: Oct 2004
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why would I tip someone who drives a better car?
Don't get me wrong, I'm a tipper. In fact my husband would say that I over tip, especially when it comes to the people who make me look my best. However, For five years, my hair was cut by the owner and premier stylist of a salon and spa. He drove a better car than me and owns five spas throughout the state.
I always tipped the people who assisted him (washers, color assistants, etc), but I would never DREAM of tipping him. I think its overly cautious to tip the owner of any salon. Send them new business- its a much better compliment. |
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Gigglesnort Charteroo
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida
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Not every owner of a salon is wealthy. Many people who own their own business in the service industry (salons, pet groomers etc.) aren't rich and don't make more than the average worker in any profession. Many of them own a business simply for having the opportunity to be their own boss. You tip for convenience and (ideally) quality of service. Denying someone a tip because they make a lot of money or more money than you is not a good reason to not tip them. I would think in the situation where a person is the owner of a large successful business or chain such as this, and works in one of their own facilities, would refuse tips (by a sign or communication of some other sort), or hopefully would redistribute the tips to his or her support staff. Many of these people work just to have something to do and be personally involved with their business. Other owner/workers actually need to work to be able make money since relying on the take-in of fellow employees (if there even are any) is not enough to sustain the business and/or owner. If you didn't tip anyone who made more money than you, there would be a lot of tipping that was eliminated since either the "tipper" had a very low income (yet was still using a service that included tipping) or the receiver of the tip makes good money in his or her profession. Ask a valet at the "Grand Floridian Resort" in Disney World what he or she makes. (It's in the 6 figures).
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Smart Feller
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I rent my station at a medium to high end salon in San Francisco. Our position as renters is not much greater than commissioned stylist (those who are on the salon payroll). Out of my service fees, I pay an assistant $12.00 an hour, I pay "all" my own taxes including Social Security. As renters, we are not elligible for any insurance benefits offered by the salon so we must cover our own medical. We also pay for all our products color, perms, etc. Most of us usually have an accountant to make sure we are paying our fair share of taxes and that they are processed acurately. Need I say more? Sure we make out a little better than most stylists. Most of us enjoy the freedom that being self employed provides. Just as much, I appreciate the generosity shown by all my clients when they "tip me". In return, whenever I am provided "good" service I always tip generously.
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Justamoderator
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Texas
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I get charged 12 dollars for my haircut. I always give Melita a 20 and tell her to keep the difference. I think it is worth to have a haircut like I want it cut.
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Doofus Maximus
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Texas
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Thanks for the info, rudysf. This is the most common question I get. I got one via email earlier this week about tipping the owner of a salon. What's your opinion on the proper etiquette of tipping a salon owner?
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Smart Feller
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: Tipping the owner
Why would one choose to in a sense, penalize the owner of a salon for being more driven to grow and be succesful. I owned and operated a highly succesful salon in Arizona before moving to San Francisco but I will use the owner of the salon I now work in as an example. A single woman (divored) and mother of one child. This young woman took her life savings and made her dream come true. She wanted to provide for herself and employees a nice salon to work in and service clients. Salon owners work very hard (usually harder) to keep abreast with the latest styles and techniques. My salon owner bears the brunt of all that goes on in her salon and still provides her clients with some of the best service and work I have ever seen. I would proudly tip her if she was my hairstylist.
Of course, the owner of the salon is subject to meeting the same criteria as any other hair stylist. Quality of work, professionalism, etc. I say tip accordingly. |
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Doofus Maximus
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Texas
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Thanks. That's what I've been telling people.
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Snappydoodle Charteroo
Join Date: Dec 2004
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hi...I'm new...I found the site when looking for percentages on what to tip a hairstylist. I waitress so I know how important tipping is and I consider myself a darn good tipper when the tip is called for. However, I just can't help but ask....waitresses make $2.64 an hour before tips. We truly need those to survive....Hairstylists are salaried at what? $25,000-$35,000 a year possibly? yet the average tip for both professions is 15-20%? I am not trying to be stingy, and I don't want to come across that way, but truthfully, to get a wash, cut, color, yadda yadda...and have $120 in services added up - and in that same price bracket, I've run around, getting drinks, timing food, adhering to "special requests", carrying large trays of food, and keeping 6-10 tables happy at the same time making $2 an hour. I just don't see, I guess, how these even out to the amount of work done and the amount of money made prior to tips. I'm sorry if this is offensive to anyone....I'm just baffled.
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Snappydoodle Charteroo
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Boy, am I glad I don't have to worry about any of this...I've cut, colored and styled my own hair since I was 12!
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Doofus Maximus
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Texas
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I think you are missing some details. A self-employed stylist that takes home 100% of their fees has the following expenses:
For the people who don't own their space, they take home about 80% of the fee and have lots of the same expenses above. I think most of them are not salaried. I think the average income is about $22,000 a year for hairstylists, hairdressers, and cosmetologists.
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Schnook
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Springfield
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I found this:
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